An
institution is the lengthened shadow of one man.
(Emerson).
Mons
Lefebvre's shadow
Bishop
Fellay on Pope Francis
“We
have in front of us a genuine Modernist!” (Ok,
then. We have a Bishop calling a Pope a heretic)
Bishop
Fellay noted that Pope St. Pius X said at the beginning of his
pontificate the ‘son of perdition’ may already be on the earth.
He also noted the original prayer to Saint Michael of Pope Leo XIII
mentions that Satan aims to establish his seat in Rome. (Um,
it's an aim, Bishop. It is not an action considered doable
given the promises of Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. Bishop Fellay does not appear
to believe the promises of Christ and, thus, he is a heretical in his thinking the Church has failed and is teaching heresy. More to follow
in the days ahead).
He
also spent a good bit of time on the famous and dramatic 1957
interview of Father Fuentes with Sister Lucia, in which she
reiterated that “various nations will disappear from the face of
the earth,” and that “the devil will do all in his power to
overcome souls consecrated to God.” (Yes,
but we sort of knew that a long time ago, didn't we?)
...: “When
we see what is happening now [under Pope Francis] we thank God, we
thank God, we have been preserved from any kind of Agreement from
last year. (He
thanks God that his petit ecclesia refuses communion with the local
Bishop and the Pope; and this is considered Tradition?)
“To
imagine that some people continue to pretend we are decided [still]
to get an Agreement with Rome. Poor people. I really challenge them
to prove they mean. They pretend that I think something else from
what I do. They are not in my head.” (OK,
then please make public the agreement with Rome that you refused.
What are you hiding?)
“Any
kind of direction for recognition ended when they gave me the
document to sign on June 13, 2012. That very day I told them, ‘this
document I cannot accept.’ I told them from the start in September
the previous year that we cannot accept this ‘hermeneutic of
continuity’ because it is not true, it is not real. It is against
the reality. So we do not accept it. The Council is not in continuity
with Tradition. It’s not. So when Pope Benedict requested that we
accept that the Second Vatican Council is an integral part of
Tradition, we say, ‘sorry, that’s not the reality, so we’re not
going to sign it. We’re not going to recognize that’.” *
“The
same for the Mass. The want us to recognize not only that the [New]
Mass is valid provided it is celebrated correctly, etc., but that it
is licit. I told them: we don’t use that word. It’s a bit messy,
our faithful have enough [confusion] regarding the validity, so we
tell them, ‘The New Mass is bad, it is evil’ and they understand
that. Period!’” Of course the Roman authorities “were not very
happy with that.” (Imagine any authority being told by a refusenik that their sacred rite is evil. Well, of course those authorities would not be pleased; but, far more difficult, imagine being a putative believer in a Church and thinking that Church produced an evil sacred rite?
“It has never been our intention to pretend either that the Council would be considered as good, or the New Mass would be ‘legitimate’”. (He is making it as clear as he can that he and his outfit ain't coming home. They reject an Ecumenical Council and the Mass of the Catholic Church. They are an annealed schism)
“It has never been our intention to pretend either that the Council would be considered as good, or the New Mass would be ‘legitimate’”. (He is making it as clear as he can that he and his outfit ain't coming home. They reject an Ecumenical Council and the Mass of the Catholic Church. They are an annealed schism)
“So
it is very clear our principle is always the same to stay faithful!
We have received a treasure. This treasure does not ‘belong’ to
us. We have received this treasure and we have to hand it to the next
generation. And what is requested from us is faithfulness, fidelity.
We do not have the right to jeopardize these treasures. These are the
treasures we have in our hands and we are not going to jeopardize
them." (I
assume he is talking about the petit ecclesia established by Mons
Lefebvre)
“If
the present Pope continues in the way he started, he is going to
divide the Church. (Your schism divided the Body of Christ as all schisms do. Pot. Kettle. Blackguard). He’s exploding everything. So people will say:
it is impossible that’s he’s the Pope, we refuse him. Others will
say [and this is presently Bishop Fellay’s position]: “Wait,
consider him as Pope, but don’t follow him. He’s provoking anger.
Many people will be discouraged by what people in the Church do”
and will be tempted to “throw it all away.”
But,
he reminded, God is “much, much bigger than we are. God is able to
have the Church continue” and even can work through these imperfect
ministers. “But once again”, he repeats, “don’t follow them.
Follow them when they say the truth, but when they tell you rubbish,
you don’t” follow them on those points. “Any obedience to be
true must be related to God. When I say I obey to a person” he
should be a “a mirror of God.” But “when mirror tells me
contrary of God, it is no longer a mirror, then I don’t follow
him.” (Perhaps
Fellay is going to go the way of earlier protestants and propose the
existence of an invisible church; who knows?)
Bishop
Fellay noted that we cannot simply obey the present Popes without
question, because then we would destroy ourselves, we would endanger
our Faith. (Preserve
the Petit Ecclesia. But if his clerics do not obey him, he
excommunicates them)
The
SSPX is a schism that has arrogantly grasped authority away from
Rome. There is absolutely no question that this has happened as a
natural consequence of Lefebvre's long legacy of making agreements
with legitimate authority and then going back on his word when he did
not get his way.
Here
is a link that documents the long, sad, history of his broken
agreements.
Look, we at ABE ministry are as frustrated and flummoxed as anyone by Our Pope and Our Cross and the anthropocentric orientation of the One True Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church but we at ABE Ministry can find not one - NOT ONE - Doctor of the Church; we can not find one - NOT ONE - entry in Denzinger; we can not find one - NOT ONE- Papal Encyclical; we can not find one - NOT ONE - ecumenical council canon or decree; we can not find one Catechism - NOT ONE - even remotely suggesting that a schism could ever be justified, to say nothing about a schism like the SSPX that is so wildly and widely praised in the soi disant Traditional movement.
This is still, and has always been, the One True Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church established by Jesus and He is, and aways been, its head; thus, one can never ever have a just reason to leave it.
Period.
As sinful men we will not be given a reason for what is happening to HIS Church and why this is happening to HIS Church while we are alive but we WILL be held accountable for whether or not we remained faithful to it and in communion with it.
* Famous Catholic Traditionalists have, publicly, delineated their problems with Vatican Two;
Romano Amerio Iota Unum
Romano Amerio Iota Unum
Roberto
de Mattei
The Second Vatican Council, an untold story
Msgr.
Brunero Gherardini's book, The Ecumenical Second Vatican Council: A
Much Needed Discussion,
and yet they were not excommunicated as was the SSPX leaders and those they consecrated.
Why is that?
The most obvious answer is that those famous men never established a petit ecclesia as did the SSPX. That petit ecclesia, it seems reasonable to assume, remains THE obstacle to a reconciliation with Rome and seeing as how Bishop Fellay was so intricately involved in establishing the petit ecclesia one can see why he has been so loathe to abandon his small autonomous church.
The most obvious answer is that those famous men never established a petit ecclesia as did the SSPX. That petit ecclesia, it seems reasonable to assume, remains THE obstacle to a reconciliation with Rome and seeing as how Bishop Fellay was so intricately involved in establishing the petit ecclesia one can see why he has been so loathe to abandon his small autonomous church.
One wonders if Bishop Fellay is playing a disingenuous game with Rome or whether he has been so corrupted by his baby that he can no longer see the forest of the one true church for the tree of Lefebvre's petrified perfidy (He had developed a protocol with Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger that gave him just what he wanted but he reneged on the deal).
Bishop Fellay is slowly sinking in an existential ecclesiastical quicksand he helped create but he cannot extricate his own self from it owing to the weight of his own works and words.
And what of his sheep? How can he possibly convince them to accept reconciliation with the Pope and Church when he has taught three generations of those sheep that the Pope and Church teach error and can not be trusted?
Are his sheep idiots?
No; and that is why this whole rhetorical dance with the Roman authorities is such an obvious scam; this shepherd has his sheep in a different sheepfold and there is no way in hell he is going to convince them to follow him to that sheepfold that he has, for now a third generation, taught them are masons, modernists, liars, heretical, etc etc.
And what about Fellay his own self? Why is he seeking a reconciliation with a Pope and Church he teaches is heretical?
We at ABE Ministry do not think he is seeking a reconciliation.
We think he stays in contact with Rome only to be available for that moment when The One True Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church concedes that they are heretics and that they are willing to surrender authority to he and his small autonomous church.
Only a true miracle can end this schism....
http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/14e8cf27a431ca52105cf70b45567b82-149.html
Bishop Fellay is slowly sinking in an existential ecclesiastical quicksand he helped create but he cannot extricate his own self from it owing to the weight of his own works and words.
And what of his sheep? How can he possibly convince them to accept reconciliation with the Pope and Church when he has taught three generations of those sheep that the Pope and Church teach error and can not be trusted?
Are his sheep idiots?
No; and that is why this whole rhetorical dance with the Roman authorities is such an obvious scam; this shepherd has his sheep in a different sheepfold and there is no way in hell he is going to convince them to follow him to that sheepfold that he has, for now a third generation, taught them are masons, modernists, liars, heretical, etc etc.
And what about Fellay his own self? Why is he seeking a reconciliation with a Pope and Church he teaches is heretical?
We at ABE Ministry do not think he is seeking a reconciliation.
We think he stays in contact with Rome only to be available for that moment when The One True Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church concedes that they are heretics and that they are willing to surrender authority to he and his small autonomous church.
Only a true miracle can end this schism....
http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/14e8cf27a431ca52105cf70b45567b82-149.html